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30-04-2012, 17:27 Subject: Audi A5/S5 speed? |
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Hello,
Honestly, I've been searching on Google so much that I can't even remember where I got this information from.
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Hex,Dez,#,Inhalt in Hex, Inhalt in Dezimal, Inhalt in ASCII (könnte ja klappen)
3c3,963,8, 0 f7 0 10 18 2e e 10, 0 247 0 16 24 46 14 16,##### .##
3c3,963,8, 0 1e 1 10 18 3d e 10, 0 30 1 16 24 61 14 16,##### =##
3c3,963,8, 0 3b 1 10 18 4b e 10, 0 59 1 16 24 75 14 16,# ;### K##
3c3,963,8, 0 5c 1 10 18 5a e 10, 0 92 1 16 24 90 14 16,# \### Z##
3c3,963,8, 0 78 1 10 18 64 e 10, 0 120 1 16 24 100 14 16,# x### d##
3c3,963,8, 0 95 1 10 18 6b e 10, 0 149 1 16 24 107 14 16,##### k##
3c3,963,8, 0 ab 1 10 18 7e e 10, 0 171 1 16 24 126 14 16,########
3c3,963,8, 0 c7 1 10 18 b4 e 10, 0 199 1 16 24 180 14 16,########
3c3,963,8, 0 de 1 10 18 d1 e 10, 0 222 1 16 24 209 14 16,########
3c3,963,8, 0 ef 1 10 18 0 f 10, 0 239 1 16 24 0 15 16,########
3c3,963,8, 0 5 2 10 18 1d f 10, 0 5 2 16 24 29 15 16,########
3c3,963,8, 0 16 2 10 18 49 f 10, 0 22 2 16 24 73 15 16,##### I##
3c3,963,8, 0 32 2 10 18 70 f 10, 0 50 2 16 24 112 15 16,# 2### p##
3c3,963,8, 0 43 2 10 18 90 f 10, 0 67 2 16 24 144 15 16,# C######
3c3,963,8, 0 54 2 10 18 a8 f 10, 0 84 2 16 24 168 15 16,# T######
3c3,963,8, 0 5f 2 10 18 f6 f 10, 0 95 2 16 24 246 15 16,# _######
3c3,963,8, 0 76 2 10 18 7d 10 10, 0 118 2 16 24 125 16 16,# v### }##
3c3,963,8, 0 86 2 10 18 71 11 10, 0 134 2 16 24 113 17 16,##### q##
3c3,963,8, 0 a8 2 10 18 a4 12 10, 0 168 2 16 24 164 18 16,######## | - Audi A5, manufactured in 2008:
Speed:
0x3c3 8 02 A0 03 10 11 80 10 50 // 10 km/h Low=D1, High=D2 / 100 = v (0x3A0/100d)
0x3c3 8 02 F3 15 10 11 2C 34 50 // 56km/h 0x15F3/100d Quote: |
Now that I've been sniffing the comfort CAN bus of the Audi A5/S5, I've taken a closer look at the 3C3 module, but I'm having trouble reading the speed signal.
Here's a short excerpt showing the behavior when the vehicle starts. In the first line of my example, I interpret D1 as the 0 after the decimal point, and D2 as f7. It doesn't really fit.
However, the value displayed on D3 actually changes with increasing or decreasing speed, but up to approximately 70 km/h, it reaches a maximum of 0x24 (which is decimal 36). I could double that value, and I would get 36 * 2 = 72 km/h, which would then be correct. But that's just a pure guess, and it's completely different from the information above, based on which I had hoped I could figure it out.
Is my approach here generally the right one, or do people usually use other methods to get to the bottom of the issue?
Regards,
Rolf.
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30-04-2012, 23:42 Subject: Re: Audi A5/S5 Speed? |
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Hello,
Honestly, I've been searching on Google so much that I can't even remember where I got this information from.
- Audi A5, manufactured in 2008:
Speed:
0x3c3 8 02 A0 03 10 11 80 10 50 // 10 km/h Low=D1, High=D2 / 100 = v (0x3A0/100d)
0x3c3 8 02 F3 15 10 11 2C 34 50 // 56km/h 0x15F3/100d
Now that I've been sniffing the comfort CAN bus of the Audi A5/S5, I've taken a closer look at the 3C3 module, but I'm having trouble reading the speed signal.
Here's a short excerpt showing the behavior when the vehicle starts. In the first line of my example, I interpret D1 as the 0 after the decimal point, and D2 as f7. It doesn't really fit.
'Everything is already stated above.'
D1 is the least significant byte.
D2 is the high byte.
Therefore, you simply have a 16-bit value that you still need to divide by 100, and you will have the speed.
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Hex, Decimal, #, Content in Hex, Content in Decimal, Content in ASCII (might work)
3c3,963,8, 0 f7 0 ==> 2.47 km/h
3c3,963,8, 0 1e 1 ==> 4.81 km/h
3c3,963,8, 0 3b 1 ==> 3.1 km/h
3c3,963,8, 0 5c 1 ==> 3.48
3c3,963,8, 0 78 1==> 3.76
3c3,963,8, 0 95 1 ==> 4.05
3c3,963,8, 0 from 1 ==> 4,27
... etc. ...
3c3,963,8, 0 86 2 10 ==> 6.4 km/h
3c3,963,8, 0 a8 2 10 ==> 6.8 km/h
Please run 3 tests at the following speeds:
- 10 km/h
- 30 km/h
- 60 km/h
and please provide the values of D1 and D2. This should be enough to see how the speed is calculated.
Regards,
Andi.
Last edited on 01-05-2012, 0:00, edited 2 times in total.
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01-05-2012, 12:12 Subject: Audi A5/S5 speed? |
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Hello Andi,
Actually. Sometimes, people are just not seeing things clearly.
I filtered and processed this using a small PHP script. I was able to create a diagram of the speed profile for the trip using OpenOffice.
Hmm, I thought I was probably going closer to 70 km/h, but that seems about right. However, I don't think I was driving a longer distance at 35 km/h; I see no evidence of that. Rather, I think the speed was decreasing gradually and continuously. Unfortunately, I haven't yet implemented a timestamp feature in my diagnostic program, but I assumed that the ID appears at regular intervals. I hope that assumption is correct.
Well, basically, it seems plausible. I'll now try to drive at appropriate speeds so that I can hopefully see those things.
Regards,
Rolf.
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01-05-2012, 19:01 Subject: Audi A5/S5 speed? |
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According to my documentation, message 963 ($3c3) comes from the steering angle sensor, which contains steering angle and steering angle rate data, but not vehicle speed.
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Ingo
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01-05-2012, 19:25 Subject: Audi A5/S5 speed? |
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[Translating...] Hallo Ingo,
hmm, demzufolge sollte sich irgendein Wert halbwegs einpendeln, da die meiste Zeit doch eher geradeaus gefahren wird. In meinem Diagramm steigt der Wert, bis er dann zum Ende der Fahrt wieder komplett auf Null zurückgeht. Würde ja zu km/h passen. Eine andere Fahrt zeigt passende 120 km/h als Spitzenwert.
Es gibt aber noch weitere befüllte Bytes, die ich hier (noch) nicht berücksichtige. Möglicherweise steckt die Lenkwinkelinformation ja in den anderen Werten drin. Das kann ich gern nochmal nachschauen..
Gruß
Rolf
P.S.: Ich hänge nochmal den schon etwas vorformulierten Code für diese Kurzfahrt an. Am Ende lenke ich kräftig nach rechts (gut 90 Grad) und dann wieder gerade, weil das eine Garageneinfahrt nach rechts ist, ich bin dann auch langsam.
D3 hat sich bei einer andren Fahrt mal auf "90" geändert statt auf "10" zu bleiben, das werde ich noch herausfinden müssen.
D4 steht total auf die 18, da gibt es kein Rütteln.. (Zündung oder sonst etwas Konstantes?).
D5 flippt ziemlich herum, hier könnten wir den Lenkwinkel haben, auch wenn ich den Lenker eigentlich eher ruhig halte  . Könnte das das Low Nibble zu D6 sein?
D6 ist da etwas behäbiger, ändert sich nicht so sehr. Vielleicht ist es ein High Nibble zu D5?
D7 scheint auch stark auf die 10 bezogen zu sein, überlegt es sich dann zum Ende der Fahrt anders, keine Ahnung, warum..
Hoffe, das ist ok, so einen langen Code zu posten..
Gruß
Rolf
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3 10 18 4b e 10
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01-05-2012, 19:59 Subject: Audi A5/S5 speed? |
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According to my information:
Message 963 ($3c3) Steering Angle_1
Starting from bit 0, 15 bits wide: Steering angle.
Multiplier: 0.04375
Range: 0-1433.55625
Unit: Degrees.
Starting from bit 15, 1 bit wide: Steering angle sign.
Multiplier: 1
Range: 0-1
Unit:
Starting from bit 16, 15 bits wide: Steering angle speed.
Multiplier: 0.04375
Range: 0-1433.55625
Unit: Angle degrees/second.
Starting at bit 131, 1 bit wide: Steering angle speed sign.
Multiplier: 1
Range: 0-1
Unit:
Regarding vehicle speed:
News 857 ($359) Brake_Transmission
Starting from bit 9, 15 bits wide: Vehicle speed.
Multiplier: 0.01
Range: 0-326.39
Unit: km/h
News 1319 ($527) GW_Combo
Starting from bit 9, 15 bits wide: Vehicle speed.
Multiplier: 0.01
Range: 0-326.39
Unit: km/h
Best regards,
Ingo
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01-05-2012, 20:26 Subject: Audi A5/S5 speed? |
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According to my information:
Regarding vehicle speed:
News 857 ($359) Brake_Transmission
Starting from bit 9, 15 bits wide: Vehicle speed.
Multiplier: 0.01
Range: 0-326.39
Unit: km/h
News 1319 ($527) GW_Combo
Starting from bit 9, 15 bits wide: Vehicle speed.
Multiplier: 0.01
Range: 0-326.39
Unit: km/h
Best regards, Ingo
Hello Ingo,
I think your information might not apply to the A5. In my records from an A5 (manufactured in 2008)), for example, the IDs 0x359 and 0x527 do not appear at all. I'm already familiar with your IDs from other models  .
Regards,
Andi.
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04-05-2012, 14:07 Subject: Audi A5/S5 speed? |
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I don't really want to start another thread for this, so here it is: I'm currently trying to find the mileage. I know it's hidden somewhere, but I'm afraid it's hidden just as well as the speed  . Does anyone have a tip on where I might find it, and ideally, what the decryption algorithm is? Sure, here's the translation:
"Anyone can handle plain text, but the Audi-CAN seems to like to hide things  sometimes."
So far, I haven't been able to figure out what other information is contained within 3C3, perhaps it's the steering angle? I'm going to drive around again tonight, but this time I'll only turn right  and compare the data.
Regards,
Rolf.
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12-11-2012, 23:56 Subject: 3c3 and mileage |
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rowi wrote: | I would rather not create another topic for this, so here it is: I am currently looking for the mileage. I know it's hidden somewhere, but I fear it's hidden just as well as the speed . Does anyone have a tip on where I might find it, and ideally, what the decryption algorithm is? Sure, here's the translation:
"Anyone can handle plain text, but the Audi-CAN seems to like to hide things sometimes."
So far, I haven't been able to figure out what other information is contained within 3C3, perhaps it's the steering angle? I'm going to drive around again tonight, but this time I'll only turn right and compare the data.
Regards,
Rolf |
Hello Rolf,
The parking brake is still engaged, with the relevant bits being 26 and 28.
Bit 58 and 59 indicate brake light and brake engaged. Bit 60 indicates engine running. Bit 61 indicates ignition coil control (Kl15). Bits 62 and 63 indicate clutch status. On byte 4 (start bit 40), a 16-bit value represents the engine speed, scaled by a factor of 0.245 (RPM).
The mileage is 0x6B2, located at start bit 8, and is 20 bits wide.
Best regards,
Ulli
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14-11-2012, 18:05 Subject: Audi A5/S5 speed? |
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Hello Ulli,
Thanks for the information, I'll keep an eye out for it.
Regards,
Rolf.
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