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Post23-07-2007, 17:52    Subject: FIAT Punto 2002: Problems & Solutions Quote

Hello Jens,

das letzte Punto modell bevor den Grande Punto hat mit sicherheit CAN (modell 188 FL) - es ist ab 2003 geliefert worden.
Mbz. das 2002 modell (mit die schmalere lampen) bin ich mir aber nicht sicher - wahrscheinlich gibt es mehrere Fiat fahrer die da bescheid wissen??

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Post08-11-2007, 5:23    Subject: FIAT Punto 2004: Specs, Review & Price Quote

also ich fahre einen nachvolger.. den punto 188 mit den 'großen' scheinwerfern...

Could it be like with the Stilo, where the CAN bus data can also be accessed via OBD? There are combination adapters that can read both CAN and OBD data from a single connector, which would be very convenient.


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Post08-11-2007, 19:28    Subject: FIAT Punto 2004: Problems & Solutions Quote

also ich fahre einen nachvolger.. den punto 188 mit den 'großen' scheinwerfern...

Could it be like with the Stilo, where the CAN bus data can also be accessed via OBD? There are combination adapters that can access both CAN and OBD from a single connector.
that would be very convenient...

Hello, the last Punto model, before the 'Grande Punto' (with the large headlights), had CAN bus technology. There are two possibilities:
* a gray body computer (brand Delphi) with only B-CAN (low speed 50 kbps).
* a beige body computer (brand Magneti Marelli) with B- and C-CAN buses (low speed 50 kbps and high speed 500 kbps).
der Marelli bodycomputer ist im 1,4L 16V modelle, im Dualogic und in fahrzeuge mir ESP.
Beachten sie aber das der OBD diagnose nur über der K-line geht (pin 7) , B-CAN-signale kann man am pin 6 (high) und pin 14 (low) abgreifen - sind viele daten aber kein OBD2.
Most likely, the (majority of) CAN data is identical to the data found on the Stilo that has already been discovered on this forum.
High-speed CAN (dynamic engine control) is not located at the OBD connector. It can be tapped from the engine control unit (ECU) or the electric power steering (EPS), but be careful – you should know what you're doing!
Normal OBD communication can be achieved with devices like the ELM 323 or 327 via the K-line. CAN communication can be accessed with devices like the can tool or Lawicel adapter using pins 6 and 14. The ELM 327 version 1.2 may also be able to display or transmit CAN signals in the Stilo or Punto, but you need to read the instructions carefully.
Good luck,
yellowstiloHigh-speed CAN (dynamic engine control) is not located at the OBD port. It can be tapped from the engine control unit (ECU) or the electric power steering (EPS) system, but be careful – you should know what you're doing!iel success,
yellowstiGood luck!


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Post09-12-2007, 16:32    Subject: FIAT Punto 2002: Problems & Solutions Quote

'Thank you in advance.'... also ich fahre besagten 204er mit 1,4l das heißt ich habe auch magneti steuergerät.

High-speed CAN (dynamic engine control) is not located at the OBD port - it can be tapped from the engine control unit (ECU) or the electric power steering (EPS), but be careful - you should know what you are doing!!

I am not yet familiar with this topic. Where on the electric power steering do I find the connection, or which wires are they?

Thank you in advance.al}High-speed CAN (dynamic engine control) is not located at the OBD port - it can, for example, be tapped from the engine control unit (ECU) or the electric power steering (EPS) system (but be careful - you should know what you are doing!!)}


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Post09-12-2007, 17:05    Subject: FIAT Punto 2002: Problems & Solutions Quote

Die high-speed can-leitungen sind mit einander verdrillt und wahrscheinlich wie beim Stilo doppelt angeschlossen aus sicherheitsgründe.
I'm not exactly sure about the colors – I think the Stilo has pink/white and pink/black, but I'd need to double-check...
However, be careful about what you're doing with the high-speed CAN bus network – your safety could be at risk if something is done incorrectly!
Best regards,
yellowstiloBe careful about what you do on the high-speed internet network - your safety could be at risk if you do something wrong!
Regards,
yellowstilbest regards,


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