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terrorVogel Guest
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09-01-2012, 5:09 Subject: Navigation systems with CAN bus connectivity |
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Volkswagen is selling a navigation system as an optional extra for the new small car, the up!, which connects to the CAN bus. The device is called 'Maps+More'.
I know from the Navigon hotline that it's a Navigon 70 Premium device, but with special software branded for Volkswagen.
The CAN Bus connector is not standard equipment, but is only available on vehicles that have ordered the 'Maps+More' package. The navigation system uses this CAN bus to display the current fuel consumption and engine speed (the 'take up!' does not have a tachometer).
Is it dangerous to connect a device (based on Windows Mobile) whose firmware can be overwritten via USB and which does not have a firewall (Bluetooth) to the CAN bus?
How difficult would it be to retrofit the CAN bus connection?
Since the navigation system can also control the radio, I assume that it is not only able to read data from the CAN bus, but also write to it.
Are my security concerns justified, or am I just imagining things?
Translated on 13-07-2026, 16:46.
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Surfjenser
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19-01-2012, 23:55 Subject: Navigation systems with CAN bus connectivity |
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To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to do.
Do you simply want to control the radio via the CAN interface, or do you want to build an adapter for a standard Navigon device that connects to the CAN bus, or something else entirely?
Translated on 13-07-2026, 16:48.
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terrorVogel Guest
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20-01-2012, 19:24 Subject: Navigation systems with CAN bus connectivity |
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The navigation system is purchased together with the car.
Is it technically possible for a virus or Trojan to control a car through its navigation system?
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Surfjenser
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23-01-2012, 18:16 Subject: Navigation systems with CAN bus connectivity |
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It will be difficult to say with absolute certainty, but it is extremely unlikely.
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