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25-03-2023, 18:39 Subject: Read CAN data and output values as control signals |
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Hi everyone,
I'm new here, and this whole topic is quite new to me. I'm facing a problem and I'm looking for a way to convert CAN bus values into 12V control signals. I essentially need a programmable/configurable CAN bus interface.
Background: We are converting US-made vehicles to meet EU standards. In some cases, these vehicles transmit additional data via the brake/turn signal lights, or modulate the signals in a way that prevents the use of standard control systems for separating brake and turn signal functions.
I am therefore looking for a way to read information directly from the bus, instead of relying on a brake/turn signal separation, and to send corresponding signals to the turn signals via relays. Online, I've found some pre-built interfaces that, for example, output a control signal when the ignition is active, at different light settings, or even when the turn signals are on. This could be used for video surveillance tools, for instance: turning on the left turn signal could trigger a control signal to activate the left camera.
However, what I'm missing is: hazard warning lights.
I absolutely need to redirect the hazard light signal to both turn signals (using a relay).
We are looking for an interface that reads 3 CAN values and provides 3 control signals accordingly.
- Left turn signal active.
- Right turn signal active.
- Hazard lights activated.
I haven't found anything that's ready. Are there any interfaces that are so individually programmable?
If so, which ones - and which ones would you recommend for implementing something like that?
...or perhaps there's someone out there who has experience with this, wants to earn a few extra euros, and could build it for me?
Best regards from Salzburg, and many thanks.
David.
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25-03-2023, 22:20 Subject: Read CAN data and output values as control signals |
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Hi David,
You need to know which messages are being transmitted on which CAN bus in your vehicle. That also varies depending on the vehicle.
Best regards, Rainer.
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25-03-2023, 22:39 Subject: Read CAN data and output values as control signals |
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Hello Rainer,
Thank you for your quick response!
It's a Ford Lightning F150.
So, the new electric version of the F-150.
Does that help?
Best regards,
David.
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25-03-2023, 23:11 Subject: Read CAN data and output values as control signals |
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eldu wrote: | Hello Rainer.
Thank you for your quick response!
It's a Ford Lightning F150.
So, the new electric version of the F-150.
Does that help?
Best regards,
David |
Not to me, but to you.
You need to determine which CAN bus contains the signals you require. I suspect it's the CAN bus for comfort functions. For example, it can also be connected to a radio.
Okay, so I need to obtain circuit diagrams, tap into the CAN bus, and listen to what data is being transmitted and when.
KCANMonitor has a feature that highlights only the time differences in messages, which makes it quick to identify relevant functions.
Best regards, Rainer.
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26-03-2023, 0:20 Subject: Read CAN data and output values as control signals |
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I would connect the "high" and "low" signals directly to the control unit where the turn signals are also connected.
Using the logger you linked and a PC, I can probably figure out how the turn signal signals are being sent, right?
And what hardware converts the signals into control signals when they are active? So, what else do I need?
It would need to be a component that can accomplish this without requiring significant processing power, startup time, delay, or power consumption. Something based on microcontrollers, or how should I imagine that?
Thank you again, and I'm sorry that I'm missing all this basic knowledge. I'm starting from 0, but I'm ready to learn quickly  .
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26-03-2023, 13:32 Subject: Read CAN data and output values as control signals |
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Hello.
Quote: | | With the logger you linked and a PC, I assume I can figure out how the turn signal signals are being sent - is that correct? |
Quote: | And which hardware converts the signals into control signals when active? So, what else do I need?
It would need to be a component that can accomplish this without requiring significant processing power, startup time, delay, or power consumption. Something based on microcontrollers, or how should I imagine that? |
Yes, some kind of microcontroller that listens to the CAN bus, analyzes the signals, and generates the switching signal you want based on that analysis.
I would be interested to know which provider you choose and what reasons you have for that decision.
Best regards, Rainer.
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