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15-11-2016, 15:28 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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Hi,
I'm looking for new Jeep (>2013) ignition frame.
I'm sorry to English.
Best regards,
marian
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Paulius Hacker

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15-11-2016, 17:24 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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can you attach some log files?
Because i have some data for JEEP and i could check if something is valid for your car. |
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15-11-2016, 17:44 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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If you have a log of the Jeep with the system 8.4, I ask for inclusion, because I am looking frame ignition. |
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Paulius Hacker

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15-11-2016, 18:26 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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marian hat folgendes geschrieben: | If you have a log of the Jeep with the system 8.4, I ask for inclusion, because I am looking frame ignition. |
i have big database for a lot of cars, JEEP as well. I dont have information in which car which Uconnect is.
If you have log file, i could check in my archives, maybe i have something. Otherwise i cant help you..
8.4 is what? i found it;s radio/navigation systems. Right?
I'm not very familiar with Jeep.
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15-11-2016, 18:34 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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I mean log of the JEEP over 2012. Then there is a chance that I'll find a frame.
If you can share this logg, I ask.
Best regards,
marian |
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Paulius Hacker

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15-11-2016, 18:48 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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marian hat folgendes geschrieben: | I mean log of the JEEP over 2012. Then there is a chance that I'll find a frame.
If you can share this logg, I ask.
Best regards,
marian |
Connection behind Radio
500kbps
ID: 0x112
Ignition on:
Byte0 = 0x04
Byte1 = 0x1A
You can try this one.. Its ignition status message. |
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15-11-2016, 18:56 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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This is a log from uconnect 8.4 radio in bench
Code: | STANDARD 12Bh 1 00 513 . 03:14:09:157
STANDARD 22Fh 1 03 54 . 03:14:08:594
STANDARD 243h 6 00 00 00 00 00 00 54 . . . . . . 03:14:08:594
STANDARD 2F3h 8 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 55 . . . . . . . . 03:14:08:594
STANDARD 301h 8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 54 . . . . . . . . 03:14:08:594
STANDARD 302h 8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 54 . . . . . . . . 03:14:08:614
STANDARD 30Dh 4 00 00 00 00 54 . . . . 03:14:08:614
STANDARD 30Fh 7 00 0A 0A 0A 0A 0A 02 55 . . . . . . . 03:14:08:614
STANDARD 317h 8 00 00 00 00 00 00 3A 00 54 . . . . . . : . 03:14:08:614
STANDARD 328h 8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 54 . . . . . . . . 03:14:08:614
STANDARD 32Fh 3 FF 00 00 54 ˙ . . 03:14:08:614
STANDARD 342h 5 00 00 00 00 00 54 . . . . . 03:14:08:614
STANDARD 350h 8 2A 00 00 07 DD 01 01 01 54 . . . . Ý . . . 03:14:08:614
STANDARD 35Ch 6 00 00 00 40 10 FF 4 . . . @ . ˙ 03:13:31:221
STANDARD 36Ch 8 7F FF FF FF 3F FF FF FF 53 ˙ ˙ ˙ ? ˙ ˙ ˙ 03:14:08:614
STANDARD 37Ch 8 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 46 ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ 03:14:06:611
STANDARD 380h 8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 8 . . . . . . . . 03:14:08:614
STANDARD 387h 8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 2 . . . . . . . . 03:13:25:263
STANDARD 38Ch 8 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 52 ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ 03:14:08:614
STANDARD 39Bh 8 3F FF FF FF 7F FF FF FF 54 ? ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ 03:14:08:614
STANDARD 3BCh 8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 47 . . . . . . . . 03:14:08:614
STANDARD 43Fh 8 FC 3F BF FF FF FF FF FF 117 ü ? ż ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ 03:14:09:990 |
Frame 0x112 not powering on this  |
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Paulius Hacker

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16-11-2016, 9:29 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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Yes i see..
My data was valid for Grand Cherokee >2014..
But ignition you can find very easy. Especially when you have just not hat much IDs.
Just see what is changing with your CAN logger/viewer when you are turning on/off ignition.
I think you will find ignition in 5-10min.  |
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16-11-2016, 12:08 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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If I had a car, yes.
The problem is that I do not have Jeep at the moment and the reading is connected with the radio on the bench. |
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16-11-2016, 16:50 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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marian hat folgendes geschrieben: | If I had a car, yes.
The problem is that I do not have Jeep at the moment and the reading is connected with the radio on the bench. |
So your messages which you posted is just from radio? Not between car and radio??
THen is clear, why my ignition message is not available in your log... Because radio is not sending any information about ignition, why should it? |
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16-11-2016, 17:45 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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Yes, it is information from the radio connected to emulator on the bench.
This information should be in your log, because they are sent to the EVIC, etc.
Radio needs to receive information about ignition.
So I'm looking correct frame 
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17-11-2016, 17:10 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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Paulius hat folgendes geschrieben: | marian hat folgendes geschrieben: | I mean log of the JEEP over 2012. Then there is a chance that I'll find a frame.
If you can share this logg, I ask.
Best regards,
marian |
Connection behind Radio
500kbps
ID: 0x112
Ignition on:
Byte0 = 0x04
Byte1 = 0x1A
You can try this one.. Its ignition status message. |
The baud rate for the car is 125kps. |
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17-11-2016, 17:28 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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gapco hat folgendes geschrieben: | Paulius hat folgendes geschrieben: | marian hat folgendes geschrieben: | I mean log of the JEEP over 2012. Then there is a chance that I'll find a frame.
If you can share this logg, I ask.
Best regards,
marian |
Connection behind Radio
500kbps
ID: 0x112
Ignition on:
Byte0 = 0x04
Byte1 = 0x1A
You can try this one.. Its ignition status message. |
The baud rate for the car is 125kps. |
Baudrate depends of on which CAN you're.
I have log file with 500kbps. Others i didn't check. |
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17-11-2016, 19:30 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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gapco hat folgendes geschrieben: | The baud rate for the car is 125kps. |
Yes. Radio baud rate is 125kbps |
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19-11-2016, 20:24 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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marian hat folgendes geschrieben: | gapco hat folgendes geschrieben: | The baud rate for the car is 125kps. |
Yes. Radio baud rate is 125kbps |
Do you have the ignition IDs for the 83.3kps radio? |
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20-11-2016, 13:25 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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What year is your radio? |
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20-11-2016, 15:40 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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marian hat folgendes geschrieben: | What year is your radio? |
Jeep change the interior CANBUS baud rate from 83.3kps to 125kps which happened middle 2008.
So any radio before middle 2008 will run at the baud rate 83.3kps.
Do you have the KL15 ignition on IDs ?
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20-11-2016, 16:36 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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Here you are
ID: 000, LEN: 6, MSG: 63 00 00 00 00 00 |
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20-11-2016, 16:41 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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marian hat folgendes geschrieben: | Here you are
ID: 000 |
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CANhack.de CAN-Bus Interface RKS+CAN kaufen: CAN-USB Interface |
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20-11-2016, 17:12 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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Strangely ID, but yes, it's zeros (ignition frame / low speed < 2012) 
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20-11-2016, 18:04 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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marian hat folgendes geschrieben: | Here you are
ID: 000, LEN: 6, MSG: 63 00 00 00 00 00 |
Thank you I already know these.There is another ID which works together with this.It's the AMP ID. What this does it sets the radio rear audio outputs to a fixed level and disables the front audio output.
Then the external amplifier does the audio fading front to rear.
There is also the RAP ID. This allows the radio to remain on for 30 minutes after the ignition key is removed.
I had these ID but lost them.
Thanks again. |
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20-11-2016, 18:41 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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No problem
The front speakers have excluded where radio comes with a car that has an amplifier.
This information is stored in the memory (eeprom).
The second ID is:
ID: 000, LEN: 7, MSG: 48 99 C0 00 00 00 00
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ID: 416, LEN: 8, MSG: FD 3E 3F FF FF FF FF FF
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27-11-2016, 15:44 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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marian hat folgendes geschrieben: | No problem
The front speakers have excluded where radio comes with a car that has an amplifier.
This information is stored in the memory (eeprom).
This is not correct. The AMPID is stored in the car and not the radio EEPROM. The EEPROM contains the radio security code,memory of stored radio stations and some CD changer information.
The second ID is:
ID: 000, LEN: 7, MSG: 48 99 C0 00 00 00 00
This ID seems to have no effect on the ignition messaging
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ID: 416, LEN: 8, MSG: FD 3E 3F FF FF FF FF FF |
The 416 ID is sent to the radio every few seconds to keep the radio from switching off in the car. On the test bench you need only to send the OOO ID at a rate of 100ms and the radio will be happy |
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27-11-2016, 15:48 Titel: Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID |
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marian hat folgendes geschrieben: | Yes, it is information from the radio connected to emulator on the bench.
This information should be in your log, because they are sent to the EVIC, etc.
Radio needs to receive information about ignition.
So I'm looking correct frame  |
If you have the radio connected on the bench with an emulator then you have the ignition ID's already.You can read these ID's easily if you have a CANBUS sniffer and software.
Maybe I am missing what you are actually looking for? |
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