Jeep > 2013 ignition on message ID

Hi,

I'm looking for new Jeep (>2013) ignition frame.
I'm sorry to English.

Best regards,
marian

can you attach some log files?
Because i have some data for JEEP and i could check if something is valid for your car.

If you have a log of the Jeep with the system 8.4, I ask for inclusion, because I am looking frame ignition.

marian hat folgendes geschrieben:

If you have a log of the Jeep with the system 8.4, I ask for inclusion, because I am looking frame ignition.

i have big database for a lot of cars, JEEP as well. I dont have information in which car which Uconnect is.
If you have log file, i could check in my archives, maybe i have something. Otherwise i cant help you..

8.4 is what? i found it;s radio/navigation systems. Right?
I'm not very familiar with Jeep.

I mean log of the JEEP over 2012. Then there is a chance that I'll find a frame.
If you can share this logg, I ask.

Best regards,
marian

marian hat folgendes geschrieben:

I mean log of the JEEP over 2012. Then there is a chance that I'll find a frame. If you can share this logg, I ask. Best regards, marian

Connection behind Radio
500kbps
ID: 0x112
Ignition on:
Byte0 = 0x04
Byte1 = 0x1A

You can try this one.. Its ignition status message.

This is a log from uconnect 8.4 radio in bench

Code:

STANDARD    12Bh    1    00     513    .    03:14:09:157 STANDARD    22Fh    1    03     54    .    03:14:08:594 STANDARD    243h    6    00 00 00 00 00 00     54    . . . . . .    03:14:08:594 STANDARD    2F3h    8    08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00     55    . . . . . . . .    03:14:08:594 STANDARD    301h    8    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00     54    . . . . . . . .    03:14:08:594 STANDARD    302h    8    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00     54    . . . . . . . .    03:14:08:614 STANDARD    30Dh    4    00 00 00 00     54    . . . .    03:14:08:614 STANDARD    30Fh    7    00 0A 0A 0A 0A 0A 02     55    . . . . . . .    03:14:08:614 STANDARD    317h    8    00 00 00 00 00 00 3A 00     54    . . . . . . : .    03:14:08:614 STANDARD    328h    8    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00     54    . . . . . . . .    03:14:08:614 STANDARD    32Fh    3    FF 00 00     54    ˙ . .    03:14:08:614 STANDARD    342h    5    00 00 00 00 00     54    . . . . .    03:14:08:614 STANDARD    350h    8    2A 00 00 07 DD 01 01 01     54    . . . . Ý . . .    03:14:08:614 STANDARD    35Ch    6    00 00 00 40 10 FF     4    . . . @ . ˙    03:13:31:221 STANDARD    36Ch    8    7F FF FF FF 3F FF FF FF     53     ˙ ˙ ˙ ? ˙ ˙ ˙    03:14:08:614 STANDARD    37Ch    8    FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF     46    ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙    03:14:06:611 STANDARD    380h    8    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00     8    . . . . . . . .    03:14:08:614 STANDARD    387h    8    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00     2    . . . . . . . .    03:13:25:263 STANDARD    38Ch    8    FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF     52    ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙    03:14:08:614 STANDARD    39Bh    8    3F FF FF FF 7F FF FF FF     54    ? ˙ ˙ ˙  ˙ ˙ ˙    03:14:08:614 STANDARD    3BCh    8    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00     47    . . . . . . . .    03:14:08:614 STANDARD    43Fh    8    FC 3F BF FF FF FF FF FF     117    ü ? ż ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙ ˙    03:14:09:990

Frame 0x112 not powering on this

Yes i see..
My data was valid for Grand Cherokee >2014..
But ignition you can find very easy. Especially when you have just not hat much IDs.

Just see what is changing with your CAN logger/viewer when you are turning on/off ignition.
I think you will find ignition in 5-10min.

If I had a car, yes.
The problem is that I do not have Jeep at the moment and the reading is connected with the radio on the bench.

marian hat folgendes geschrieben:

If I had a car, yes. The problem is that I do not have Jeep at the moment and the reading is connected with the radio on the bench.

So your messages which you posted is just from radio? Not between car and radio??
THen is clear, why my ignition message is not available in your log... Because radio is not sending any information about ignition, why should it?

Yes, it is information from the radio connected to emulator on the bench.
This information should be in your log, because they are sent to the EVIC, etc.
Radio needs to receive information about ignition.
So I'm looking correct frame

Paulius hat folgendes geschrieben:

marian hat folgendes geschrieben: I mean log of the JEEP over 2012. Then there is a chance that I'll find a frame. If you can share this logg, I ask. Best regards, marian Connection behind Radio 500kbps ID: 0x112 Ignition on: Byte0 = 0x04 Byte1 = 0x1A You can try this one.. Its ignition status message.

The baud rate for the car is 125kps.

gapco hat folgendes geschrieben:

Paulius hat folgendes geschrieben: marian hat folgendes geschrieben: I mean log of the JEEP over 2012. Then there is a chance that I'll find a frame. If you can share this logg, I ask. Best regards, marian Connection behind Radio 500kbps ID: 0x112 Ignition on: Byte0 = 0x04 Byte1 = 0x1A You can try this one.. Its ignition status message. The baud rate for the car is 125kps.

Baudrate depends of on which CAN you're.
I have log file with 500kbps. Others i didn't check.

gapco hat folgendes geschrieben:

The baud rate for the car is 125kps.

Yes. Radio baud rate is 125kbps

marian hat folgendes geschrieben:

gapco hat folgendes geschrieben: The baud rate for the car is 125kps. Yes. Radio baud rate is 125kbps

Do you have the ignition IDs for the 83.3kps radio?

What year is your radio?

marian hat folgendes geschrieben:

What year is your radio?

Jeep change the interior CANBUS baud rate from 83.3kps to 125kps which happened middle 2008.

So any radio before middle 2008 will run at the baud rate 83.3kps.

Do you have the KL15 ignition on IDs ?

Many thanks

Here you are

ID: 000, LEN: 6, MSG: 63 00 00 00 00 00

marian hat folgendes geschrieben:

Here you are ID: 000

Strangely ID, but yes, it's zeros (ignition frame / low speed < 2012)

marian hat folgendes geschrieben:

Here you are ID: 000, LEN: 6, MSG: 63 00 00 00 00 00

Thank you I already know these.There is another ID which works together with this.It's the AMP ID. What this does it sets the radio rear audio outputs to a fixed level and disables the front audio output.

Then the external amplifier does the audio fading front to rear.

There is also the RAP ID. This allows the radio to remain on for 30 minutes after the ignition key is removed.

I had these ID but lost them.

Thanks again.

No problem

The front speakers have excluded where radio comes with a car that has an amplifier.
This information is stored in the memory (eeprom).

The second ID is:
ID: 000, LEN: 7, MSG: 48 99 C0 00 00 00 00
or
ID: 416, LEN: 8, MSG: FD 3E 3F FF FF FF FF FF

marian hat folgendes geschrieben:

No problem The front speakers have excluded where radio comes with a car that has an amplifier. This information is stored in the memory (eeprom). This is not correct. The AMPID is stored in the car and not the radio EEPROM. The EEPROM contains the radio security code,memory of stored radio stations and some CD changer information. The second ID is: ID: 000, LEN: 7, MSG: 48 99 C0 00 00 00 00 This ID seems to have no effect on the ignition messaging or ID: 416, LEN: 8, MSG: FD 3E 3F FF FF FF FF FF

The 416 ID is sent to the radio every few seconds to keep the radio from switching off in the car. On the test bench you need only to send the OOO ID at a rate of 100ms and the radio will be happy

marian hat folgendes geschrieben:

Yes, it is information from the radio connected to emulator on the bench. This information should be in your log, because they are sent to the EVIC, etc. Radio needs to receive information about ignition. So I'm looking correct frame

If you have the radio connected on the bench with an emulator then you have the ignition ID's already.You can read these ID's easily if you have a CANBUS sniffer and software.

Maybe I am missing what you are actually looking for?